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Judo ikkyu (brown belt)

BJJ 4-stripe white belt

2nd dan Isshinryu, former instructor, don't believe in it anymore

negligible experience with boxing and muay Thai


Nov
5
comment How dangerous is it to choke someone unconscious or to be choked unconscious?
@MarkC.Wallace The last sentence makes a lot more sense now :) And I apologize for the way I phrased my comment--I didn't mean for it to come across as attacking you or anyone. I just thought her statement was pretty incredible.
Nov
5
comment How dangerous is it to choke someone unconscious or to be choked unconscious?
Her statement is equivalent to saying "I would never practice a header in soccer, because although I've never played the sport, it looks like it would cause cerebral hemorrhages." It's quite clearly a statement that is ignorant of the plain fact that millions of people do practice these things with no evidence of ill effect either chronic or acute. Judo is one of the top practiced sports in the world. Wouldn't you think we'd have had at least one case of someone falling down dead from a choke by now, if it were going to happen?
Nov
5
comment How dangerous is it to choke someone unconscious or to be choked unconscious?
@Damon That's a caricature of my reasoning. 15 people dying is at least a fairly serious chance of injury compared to 0 people dying from training chokes with the basic precautions noted in my answer, as Kowai and various judo organizations have noted. The data shows that our time would be better spent warning people about poorly applied uchimata attacks that endanger the neck. Let me put it this way: is there any data that could conceivably convince you that chokes are safe?
Nov
5
comment How dangerous is it to choke someone unconscious or to be choked unconscious?
@Damon Kowai goes into fair detail describing how law enforcement's LVNR should not be considered the same as properly trained and applied martial arts chokes. I would also be interested to see if the after-care guidelines were based in medicine or were just a legal way to cover their behind.
Nov
5
comment How dangerous is it to choke someone unconscious or to be choked unconscious?
I still disagree, and point to the massive numbers of people doing this every day without falling dead, as noted in Kowai, and without noted deleterious long-term effects, per Rodriguez, Vitali, & Nobili (and others), though I acknowledge that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Nov
5
comment How dangerous is it to choke someone unconscious or to be choked unconscious?
Explaining that in your answer would make it more clear. Thanks.
Nov
4
comment How dangerous is it to choke someone unconscious or to be choked unconscious?
I feel like we're in danger of some circular reasoning. If I understand correctly, the point of training chokes is to force the partner to tap out before they experience a vasovagal syncope. We're trying to determine how dangerous it is if our partner passes out before tapping. As my answer details, all studies of this kind of training seem to show that there is minimal or no risk involved, as long as basic precautions are taken. Saying "choking them unconscious is dangerous because they're unconscious" doesn't really shed light on the situation. Or did I not catch part of your position?
Nov
4
comment How dangerous is it to choke someone unconscious or to be choked unconscious?
Can you tell us what caused the shock kidney trauma? I assume it wasn't martial arts training. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't vasovagal syncope via carotid sinus massage the goal of training chokes, and a large part of the subject of the question itself?
Nov
4
comment How dangerous is it to choke someone unconscious or to be choked unconscious?
@MarkC.Wallace Any word? I'd be interested in any brain scans that showed problems from chokes.
Nov
4
comment How dangerous is it to choke someone unconscious or to be choked unconscious?
Do you have any reports of any of these things happening in the course of martial arts training?
Nov
4
comment How dangerous is it to choke someone unconscious or to be choked unconscious?
What is contradicted? What about it merits further research? And shouldn't Wendy's analysis be taken with a grain of salt after she says something as frankly ignorant as "I would never practice chokes with a face-down opponent", after admitting she has essentially no experience with judo, an art in which choking people face-down happens hundreds of times worldwide literally every day?
Nov
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Oct
31
comment Endurance problems while practicing martial art
@teodozjan Specific questions about removing sugar from the diet in order to improve your endurance/fitness would be a good fit for Physical Fitness
Oct
31
comment Endurance problems while practicing martial art
@teodozjan That sounds like an excellent approach. Good luck.
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Oct
29
comment Endurance problems while practicing martial art
How bad do you get tired during these "warm-ups"? Are you just tired, do you get totally gassed, can you finish? Is the problem that you're tired at the end, or that you're getting worse over time, or that you're REALLY tired at the end?
Oct
28
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