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I've been doing BJJ for a while, but I wanted to further improve my self defense skills. I started learning Krav Maga, which is part of the Israeli Combat System (ICS). A big part of ICS is Israeli Jiu Jitsu. Can anybody tell me what the difference is between BJJ and IJJ, because they look pretty much the same from what I can tell.

Here are two sites that provide data on IJJ:

https://www.ijjko.com/en/israeli-organization

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga

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  • The IJJKO website screams BS. 5th dan and red-white? An organisation named after some Hungarian guy? What the heck?! Also, what do you expect? There are only so many functional responses to each attack, so effective training will ultimately involve the same moves regardless of the label.
    – Philip Klöcking
    Feb 26, 2020 at 11:51
  • @PhilipKlöcking 5th dan red and white is used for juso, so why not IJJ? I can tell you that Israeli Jiu Jitsu is real.
    – LemmyX
    Mar 1, 2020 at 23:44
  • Red-white is used from 6th dan to 8th dan in Judo and every sport which adapted Judo ranking I encountered so far.
    – Philip Klöcking
    Mar 2, 2020 at 7:02
  • But 6 is only one more than 5, isn't it?
    – LemmyX
    Mar 2, 2020 at 22:08
  • Does it matter? Some martial arts have a lot of 10th dans, others have serveral years none. Some have 1. dan as capable trainers, other arts have trainers starting at higher ranks.
    – Bru
    Jul 30, 2021 at 7:51

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"Israeli Jiu-Jitsu" seems to appear in two contexts:

  1. Describing BJJ and/or Japanese Jujutsu techniques as adapted and incorporated into some styles of Krav Maga (which has its origins in incorporating techniques from a variety of older martial arts: boxing, wrestling, judo etc), e.g. as taught by Roy Elghanayan.
  2. Describing Jiu-Jitsu organisations/schools/practitioners that are Israeli (as in your first link). This is similar to e.g. the British Judo Association, which doesn't purport to teach a distinct martial art from Judo taught elsewhere, only denoting the nationality of the organisation.
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